driggs 4 months ago

Indeed, similar megafauna were present in North America as well. The West Virginia state fossil is Megalonyx jeffersonii, a giant ground sloth present until the end of the Pleistocene. They're estimated to have been 10 feet "tall" and to weight roughly a ton. Fossil bones were discovered in Haynes Cave, Monroe County near the present day Virginia border, and the species is named for Thomas Jefferson, who examined bones and authored the paper that identified this genus. (Though the history of exactly which bones he identified is slightly murky.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalonyx

It seems likely that they were using these limestone caves for shelter, though it is also not uncommon for other Pleistocene fossils to be found and preserved in caves after washing in as sediment. I've never seen claw marks on cave walls quite large enough to attribute it to a ground sloth, but there are occasionally very large claw marks on cave walls... and I wouldn't want to be trapped in the dark with whatever creature left them behind.

bj85 4 months ago

Giant sloths was not really on my list of expected answers but "One species, Glossotherium robustum, a South American sloth that lived between 4 million and 12,500 years ago, reached more than 3 metres in length and weighed up to 1,500 kilograms"

But who was really in charge?

  • Qem 4 months ago

    > Giant sloths was not really on my list of expected answers

    Despite not looking very alike at the first glance, sloths are grouped together with armadillos in the clade Xenarthra[1]. Both lineages descend from a common ancestor from around the time the dinosaurs went extinct. So it's not that surprising there were burrowing sloths. I guess the burrowing behaviour surely came handy to their shared ancestor by the time the dinosaurs were screwed by the asteroid that carved the Chicxulub crater[2]. What is mind-boggling for me is that once there were aquatic sloths[3]. Some sloths followed the steps from the ancestors of whales and dolphins, and rehearsed a return to sea. Unfortunately that evolutionary experiment was cut short when the gap between south and north america closed, isolating atlantic from pacific oceans and dooming the niche where the critters thrived. Had they persisted, I wonder if by now we could have whale-like sloths (whaloths?).

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenarthra

    [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater

    [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassocnus

    • beambot 4 months ago

      Manatees and dugongs feel like "whale-like sloths", though I have no idea if they're taxonomically related

      • Qem 4 months ago

        They are more closely related to elephants.

    • bloopernova 4 months ago

      Thank you for the aquatic sloth link, that's so cool!

  • adolph 4 months ago

    The giant sloth was the first thing that came to my mind. Nearly every time I'm at the grocery I think about the giant ground sloth theory of avocado evolution:

      A number of authors, including Connie Barlow in her 2001 book The Ghosts of 
      Evolution, have speculated that the avocado is an "evolutionary anachronism" 
      with megafaunal dispersal syndrome (a concept originally proposed in the 
      1980s by Paul S. Martin and Daniel H. Janzen), arguing that the avocado 
      likely coevolved dispersal of its large seed by now-extinct megafauna. Barlow 
      proposed that the dispersers included the gomphothere (elephant relative) 
      Cuvieronius, as well as ground sloths, toxodontids, and glyptodonts. The 
      concept of evolutionary anachronisms/megafaunal dispersal syndrome has been 
      criticised by some authors, who note that many large fruit are readily 
      dispersed by non-megafaunal animals, with it being noted that living agoutis 
      disperse avocado seeds, with spectacled bears have also having been observed 
      eating domestic avocados.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocado
  • tejtm 4 months ago

    Good question, species do not put that much compulsive effort into preemptive escape without cause.

    • Retric 4 months ago

      Thermal regulation is a possibility mentioned outside of predation.

      Bears aren’t afraid of being eaten, but they still dig dens because they’re warm in the winter.

    • IncreasePosts 4 months ago

      Maybe humans just used the claws of dead giant sloths to carve the caves for their own purposes.

      • gus_massa 4 months ago

        Tunels are 100 millions year old. We split from chimps 5 millions years ago.

        Modern humans are .11 million year old, and we arrived to America .015 million years ago.

        • ainiriand 4 months ago

          No, what is 100 million years old is the rock layer. The tunnels are `recent`.

        • ruleryak 4 months ago

          the sandstone formation is 100 million years old, not the tunnels

        • tangus 4 months ago

          Just in time to kill the giants sloths?

      • metalmangler 4 months ago

        as is often the case, one species will make a burro only to have other species take over and modify it, with choice locations, used contiously for several millenia, so an odd scratch here and one there adds up, and we have no other behavioral evidence for this last mega fauna, so who knows? might find more of these in different stages, with perhaps fossil evidence

ggm 4 months ago

Bruce Chatwin mentions the tunnels and sloths in his book "in Patagonia" 1977

whatamidoingyo 4 months ago

I visited MOAS in Daytona last week, and learned about the ground sloth for the first time in my life. Fascinating. I thought I knew just about every animal to have lived on earth, but I was so wrong. Curious what other creatures like this I don't know about.

SamBam 4 months ago

So not the Shrike?

  • beacon294 4 months ago

    I think they were carved by "the builders"...

bell-cot 4 months ago

> The longest described so far is in Pará state in the Amazon region, with combined internal galleries some 1,500 metres long ...

I'm not a Mining Engineer, to know when CO2 accumulation would become a problem (if the giant sloths were living in the tunnels). But the effort needed to manually remove the tailings from a tunnel is O(n^2) - because the working face keeps getting further from the exit.

So as the article asks - how could the effort needed possibly be worthwhile?

  • Qem 4 months ago

    It appears to be combined lenght for the whole tunnel complex. Not 1,500 meters to the nearest exit.

  • rdtsc 4 months ago

    Dig slightly up so CO2 doesn’t accumulate in low areas and spread the tunnels around like a tree or a mesh? Work with your fellow sloth team, take turns, dilly-dally around. What else would sloths do ;-)

  • cess11 4 months ago

    How would the animal determine that the effort is no longer worthwhile?

    • bell-cot 4 months ago

      I don't know. But pretty much every burrowing animal has to decide when the RoI has gotten too low to keep digging.

      • goatlover 4 months ago

        Do they use a spreadsheet?

zkmon 4 months ago

Carving could have been done by natural processes, instead of creatures? Many large caves are created by simple process of chemical reactions and water flow over time. Any scratches on the surface could be from creatures.

  • veunes 4 months ago

    From what I've read, these burrows have distinct claw marks ("claw-like markings on the walls") and structural patterns that don't match typical natural cave formation processes

emilfihlman 4 months ago

Since no one has said, but I strongly feel like it should be said and it's so great and positive abd triggers many memories.

Secret tunnel!

caycep 4 months ago

the irony is if it was some Stone Age counterpart to Seymour Cray

_dain_ 4 months ago

god I wish I could live in tunnels. like a hobbit. these sloths had it all figured out ...

  • Chris2048 4 months ago

    What's stoppin' ya?

    • fc417fc802 4 months ago

      In most of the western world it's illegal to excavate any significant volume without a bunch of permitting and oversight. Additional regulations surrounding living spaces. Plus the fact that you don't generally own the volume underneath your lot in the first place.

      If you make it past all that (regardless of whether you selected the legal or illegal route) there's the expense of doing so safely. Then add on the expense of maintenance (by which I mostly mean water management).

    • _dain_ 4 months ago

      government, money, local geology.